Trying keep the collection down to 8 or less so letting these go. Pricing em 2 for 1ish. ML16 is brand new. ML08 is used and bezel brushed (not well). All links for bracelets. If ya wanna play around w vh31 builds etc these are fun. 31mm dials are the ticket. I switched the movements/dials already and of course that is the most simple easy mod. $150 Conus and PP.