Selling on behalf of dad. He rarely wears it, or any watch for that matter (due to his job), so when I recently gifted him a Navi he asked me to move this one along. As a functioning Seikoholic and chrono fan, my first thought was to keep it for myself, but before I do that - because I need another watch like I just need another bucket of Jollibee (you don’t know about Jollibee? Okay, forget about this whole thing, grab your keys and go to your closest Jollibee. It’s basically crack) - I figured I would try passing it along. Just how much Jollibee has this guy smoked, why the F is this psycho talking about Seiko in a Tag posting, you may understandably be asking. Well, for those that don’t know, here’s a snippet from a 2014 Hodinkee article, >“When it was unveiled in 2009 to celebrate the brand’s 150th anniversary, there was a bit of commotion in watch circles about how in-house the 1887 actually is, and here’s the full scoop.  TAG Heuer acquired the exclusive European rights to the TC87 movement platform from Seiko, who had patented the design back in 1997, and used it as the foundation for the 1887. TAG started with the Seiko 6S37 column wheel chronograph and adapted it to suit their needs, doing things like moving the balance wheel’s position, flattening the movement out overall, and reconfiguring the main plate, bridge, and oscillator architecture. If you’re feeling skeptical at this point, bear with us for a second. TAG Heuer, while touting the 1887 as 100% in-house, has also announced publicly that it has a formal relationship with Seiko and is sourcing some less critical components for the 1887 from the Japanese brand due to Swatch Group restricting supply. All told, there are 22 suppliers of components for the 1887 and Seiko is the only one that is not Swiss. So while the “100% in-house” moniker might lead to you believe something a bit far from the truth, TAG Heuer has been transparent and provided information when asked about the 1887’s provenance. There are even a number of reasons why TAG Heuer building on this Seiko foundation to bring us the 1887 is a great thing. The proprietary, Seiko-conceived double pawl winding system is more efficient than a standard rotor winding system, and the column wheel system in this movement is extremely reliable and reactive.  As mentioned above though, TAG did make some significant modifications to make the 1887 their own, one of which is the addition of their internally developed rocking pinion. To oversimplify a bit, this means the chronograph’s seconds hand is always partially connected to the movement’s running seconds gear train, so engagement is much faster and smoother.  So while ultimately the 1887 is only partially “in-house,” it’s a great movement nonetheless and certainly a significant step up from the ebauche movements used in many competing chronographs.” Yes, they could and should have been more forthcoming, but being now several years removed from the controversy with the power of hindsight, IMO it’s precisely what makes this one of the most interesting watches of the 2010s. Sort of like the Lotus Elise. A rare marriage between Swiss and Japanese watchmaking with an equally buzzworthy saga to boot. Again, as a big chrono fan I’ve had my fair share - e.g. Daytonas, Navis, Speedys, Sinns, Damakos, IWCs - and this one is right up there. I love the layout of the dial, the silver surround for the 6 and 12 o’clock chronograph hour and minute counters, respectively, not only gives a nice contrast, but lends the dial a nice symmetry. The polished indices - which are highly dimensional and visibly convex on their table - dance with the lights and give the dial a lot of character, as does the pop of red on the dial, the tip of the chronograph hands, and the start/stop pusher. The case is very uniquely Carrera and the strong Carrera lugs are a treat, as is that open caseback. The bracelet has a unique, somewhat H-link design and manages to look both sporty and sophisticated, not to mention one of the most comfortable drapes I’ve experienced. The whole watch simply oozes quality, and you would expect nothing less from their flagship piece that retailed for nearly six grand!  **Condition & Presentation:** Dad wore it around once a month, only for going out to restaurants and such, so overall in fine shape. Two minor dings on the bezel surround, a very tiny hairline on the ceramic bezel, and light marks on the outer AR coating (which could be removed), all around 7 - 8 o’clock. It is not a safe queen and should not be construed as such, however, on wrist these are all nearly unnoticeable, and by all accounts the watch presents beautifully and would make for an excellent casual or daily piece; not to mention, I think you’ll agree the price more than makes up for it. Winding is smooth and the watch starts right up after a couple turns. Column wheel actuation feels crisp and smooth, and everything resets normally. In the two days I tested it timekeeping was around +5 to +10 spd, but as always, YMMV. Comes with its original box, warranty card, and extra links. As with most “leather” watch boxes from the period, the interior/pillow is worn, but at least not discarded like many were.  **Price:** Lowest anywhere for a quick and easy sale, $1450 shipped and insured CONUS. Bank wire or Zelle only due to scams, unless I personally know you. No trades please, no reserving without a deposit, and first to pay takes it. I am not a dealer or dealer-wannabe, only a watch enthusiast. All sales are final unless grossly misrepresented. And in case you’re hard of hearing, let me say it again. BUTTLICKER! OUR PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER!  **Timestamp:** [https://imgur.com/a/VudNgpZ](https://imgur.com/a/VudNgpZ) **Spec:** [https://www.tagheuer.com/us/en/timepieces/collections/tag-heuer-carrera/43-mm-calibre-1887-automatic/CAR2A10.BA0799.html](https://www.tagheuer.com/us/en/timepieces/collections/tag-heuer-carrera/43-mm-calibre-1887-automatic/CAR2A10.BA0799.html)